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  Jan 3, 2013 letter about child custody packet

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  2. bible

  i couldn't help but notice in the ps to the body of elders at the bottom.......it reminds elders to review paragraphs 23-25 of the letter to all bodies of elders dated april 9, 2012. i looked back through my collection of letters and i don't have one dated april 9th, 2012. i looked through all of atlantis' posts and don't see one with that date either.

  has one slipped through the cracks?

  does anyone have a way of obtaining a copy of this letter?

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  bats in the belfry

  Courtesy of Atlantis: here
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  Does anybody know how they elect new Governing Body members?

  by dgp in

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  2. beliefs

  now that "habemus papam", i was wondering how it is that someone in the watchtower becomes a member of the governing body.

  does anybody know?.

  and, how do they choose who gets to be a member of the corporations?.

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  bats in the belfry

  Just like the pope is elected, by a 2/3 majority vote.

  Information as close as it gets - there has never been an official statement in any publication about the procedure.

  "A major factor in Governing Body decisions was the two-thirds majority rule. This produced some strange effects at times."

  (Crisis of Consience (2004), page 115, by R. Franz, former Governing Body member)
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  Who of you ever lied on your field service reports?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  i've read a few people mention making up the figures for the field service reports, and i want to find out how common it is.

  i never lied on my report.

  sometimes i'd round up 15 minutes if i'd mentioned jw stuff to my brother that month, but that wasn't falsifying.

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  bats in the belfry

  Is it the time cruisin' around between visits that needs reporting as well?
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  Candace Conti v. Watchtower | March 11, 2013 | Watchtower Society Appeal Dismissed For Failure To File Opening Brief

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  edit correction:.

  the court web site lisiting reflects the following below, but we have been informed that the watchtower society has been given yet another extension until march 26, 2013.. the below post will be left as is, for those who may have wondered what happened.. .

  congratulations candace conti.

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  bats in the belfry

  Perhaps the occasion lends itself to be worked into the memorial talk?

  

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  Vulcan--2013,May,Our Kingdom Ministry/

  by Atlantis in

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  2013, may, our kingdom ministry.link by the blue box and blue arrow.http://www.sendspace.com/file/dzezcj.click on slow download.http://www.fileswap.com/dl/snvol4en1s/.click the green download button.http://www.fileflyer.com/view/hm53dcp..vulcan.

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  bats in the belfry

  . . . yeah. Thank you.
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  The Wrath Of Cain, HBO movie

  by designs in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  based on the life of a criminal, miles cain skinner, and his son who turned their lives around in prison and began helping youths to avoid a life of crime.. the funny feature in the film, for us, is the bible that is given to the lead character, played by ving rhames, is the green nwt and he carries it around with him for the last third of the film..

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  bats in the belfry

  Sorry, at first I read: The Wrath of Khan
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  They read off the names of those auxilliary pioneering; 75% of them don't work &

  by Theocratic Sedition in

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  2. friends

  half of that 75% get disability and ssi checks.

  it was kinda funny sitting there listening to them go down the line, name by name, of the ones auxilliary pioneering since the numbers are dropped to 30 hours for march & april.

  as they were doing the names i was saying to myself, "she don't work", "she supposedly can't work", "he hasn't worked in years", "she gets a check", "she's probably gonna lie about the amount of hours she did" etc.. gotta love it.. i don't know if this happens in your congregation or not, but have you ever heard someone remark about someone else behind their back, "she can show up at every gathering, but she can't show up for field service!

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  bats in the belfry

  Indirectly they are encouraging to rather pioneer than to look after employment. Some countries don't take this attitude lightly. Their (un)employment agencies are geared up to get you working again at any cost so you will not burden the general public.

  To insinuate that taking any first job coming your way may not be the best choice, as the WTBTS has done, is plain wrong, and it is certainly not what the unemployed has vouched to do when signing up with an employment agency.

  It will create a lackadaisical attitude . . . . they rather will go pioneer.

  

  2013 Watchtower, January 15, page 13
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  Elders Call Off Meetings A Lot More Easily Than They Did Before For Inclement Weather

  by minimus in

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  the meetings were cancelled in this area with only 2 inches of snow for the "storm''.

  lol.

  a month ago the co had the meeting cancelled because it was a bit tracherous, which i thought was a good call..... years`ago, if we cancelled a meeting it took until one hour before the presiding overseer would finally decide to cancel.. today's jws are wimps..

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  bats in the belfry

  They announce plenty of meetings for field service before, during, and after the COs service week just to look industrious. At least half of them get canceled (text messaging) by the elders after the CO is gone due to a lack of time to oversee them.

  Anyway, it makes them look good though with the CO. Quite some players, the elders.
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  How Could Jesus Be A Perfect Human When...?

  by OneStepOut93 in

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  2. bible

  how could jesus have been a perfect human on earth if he was born from mary?

  doesn't thewatchtower believe since we are all sons and daughters of adam and eve, that we are all genetically imperfect?

  so if mary also came from adam and eve like the rest of us but gave birth to jesus then wouldn't jesus have been born imperfectlike the rest of us?.

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  bats in the belfry

  . . . don't know what to think of it - just saw this on their WT library:

  Scientifically Possible?

  Reproduction without a male is known as parthenogenesis [Greek, parthenos meaning “maiden” plus “genesis”]. Recently scientists have been experimenting successfully with parthenogenesis in mammals. The Economist of August 1, 1981, reports: “Embryo development in the absence of sperm is the natural means of reproduction in many lower species of animal. . . . Parthenogenesis is being studied using laboratory mice. Several means exist for artificially activating an unfertilised mouse egg.”

  Similarly, Dr. M. B. V. Roberts of Marlborough College, England, writes: “An unfertilized egg was removed from a female rabbit, activated by pricking, and then popped back into the uterus. Hormone treatment had been previously given to the female so that her uterine mucosa was prepared for implantation. Normal development ensued, and a visibly normal offspring was produced.”

  Are we to conclude from this that God induced Mary’s pregnancy in some such way from an unfertilized egg? No. From the accompanying chart, you can see why. If Mary’s firstborn had received both chromosomes (X) from her, the offspring would of necessity have been female.

  Hence, something more must have been involved in the conception of Jesus. Just what this was the angel explained to Joseph: “That which has been begotten in her is by holy spirit.” (Matthew 1:20) We do not know precisely how this was done. Yet we must admit that if mere man can in a limited way manipulate the fertilization process in the laboratory, surely it is not beyond the power of the Creator and Life-Giver of the universe to do so and to transfer the life-force of his Son from the heavens to the ovum of a virgin girl.

  [Diagram on page 5]

  A female’s egg contains two X chromosomes. The male sperm cell has an X and a Y. Each parent provides one chromosome. If two X’s combine, a girl is produced. If an X and a Y, the child will be male.

  Laboratory-induced parthenogenesis causes a female egg to divide and grow, so the result (XX) must be a female.

  Such a type of parthenogenesis could not have occurred with Mary, for her firstborn (Jesus) was a male. Since she was a virgin, the Y chromosome must have been supplied miraculously, as the Bible indicates.

  w82 2/15 pp. 4-5 The Virgin Birth—Can You Believe It?
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  How does the WTS mine quotes for their "scholarly inspired" articles ?

  by mP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ive seen a few threads discussing misquotations, including the quote about roman times taken from a book of fiction.

  apologies but i cant recall the author or the book mentioned but im sure others will know what im talking about .. so how many books do they read to find these quotes ?

  they must b e buying a lot of apostate books just to find a worthy quote.

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  bats in the belfry

  Their reasoning on "quote mining" is a joke on the rest of mankind.

  "The WTBTS does not like blogs or poorly documented Web entries written by unidentified or unqualified persons. For example, Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia, warns that some articles on its own site “contain significant misinformation, unencyclopedic content, or vandalism,” adding that “users need to be aware of this.”
  
  Thus, the Writing Department looks to standard reference works, articles written by recognized experts, and books produced by respected publishers."
  
  And this:

  

  2011 Yearbook, pages 9,10